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Big Frigger
02-03-2003, 01:42 PM
Ok, I was never really interested in singing. But I recently found out that I have a GREAT God-givin growl. A few minutes ago I friggen tore it up growlin along to some of my favs. I didn't warm up before I tested it out, now I can barely talk.
How can I repair my vocal chords?
Wangoed
02-03-2003, 02:03 PM
just warm up next time and you'll be good to go
rest it until it's better.
next time around, warm up, drink lots of water, etc.
if you continue to damage it without letting it rest, scar tissue can build up and more permanent damage can result.
mister_playboy
02-04-2003, 01:16 AM
start out by going through all the motions without actually putting any "wind" into it... without actually putting any volume into it, if that makes sense.
Kind of like when you take a shower... turn the water all the way to hot right away and you'll get burned... start off at pretty warm, and work your way up, and you can handle it at full hot, even though it's actually the same temperature that burned you before... it's all about the building up to it. The getting used to it.
does this make sense? dorky example... but it's what came to mind! :D
Rusted Veins
02-08-2003, 09:57 PM
Hey! Use your stomach man, don't use your throat. I did the same mistake and I was suffering a lot.
Once I did can sing on studio recordings, and I was drinking water and "teas" and nothing!! I remember that I said "mmmmm. when i play live , I smoke and I drink beers". The best solution: I drink 2 heinekens ans I was smoking at the same time. Best results for me , dude :lol:
Big Frigger
02-09-2003, 03:49 PM
I find it hard, if not impossible, to growl from the stomach, but I will keep trying :-x
I don't even want to do this, trust me. But I have to with the offer I have to get our name around. This kid I know doesn't like distributing instrumental demos...
StarChild
04-14-2003, 03:35 PM
I don't think it is possible to "growl" from the stomach... When you growl, it's your throat that is "warping" or "distorting" the sound that's SHOULD be coming from the stomach... When you SING, THAT should come from the stomach but when it reaches the throat and you want to get a growl, your throat kicks in and "adds" the distortion... So it really comes down to who has the strongest throat... Some people just naturally have the throat for it while others don't and have to work harder... Warming up DOES help a bit, though... But in honesty, warming just slows down the time between now and the day you blow out your vocals... So warming up just makes you last a bit longer... At least, this is my take on it after singer for about 3-4 years... :)
StarChild
Barry Clark
04-14-2003, 08:37 PM
Starchild-
Are you Star on the Candiria forum?
Apache Boy
04-15-2003, 12:56 AM
Tea with honey
The Cynic
04-15-2003, 04:53 AM
Starchild, would you please change your avatar? I've been using it since the forum opened in September plus I'm a whiny, self-indulgent bitch, so if you would be so kind as to change yours, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance...
Love,
TC (The Cynic for you laymen out there) :)
StarChild
04-15-2003, 11:02 PM
Okay... This is for Barry Clark: Yep... I'm on the Candiria board... I believe I sent you a PM about it... See ya on the boards, dude!
This one is for The Cynic: The reason I chose to have the alien avatar is a long and extended one... It's late and I'm tired... I have to go to bed soon... The avatars were put on the boards for people to freely choose what they feel fits them... I chose what I chose for my own reasons as I'm sure you chose the same avatar for your own reasons... I am aware that the alien avatar I am displaying is not exactly "original"... Meshuggah did not invent aliens, I'm sure... And I've seen similar alien faces on many, many tee shirts as well as tattoos, body piercings, etc... By display the alien avatar, I am in no way trying to impress people by trying to be "the first kid on the block with a new bike"... I am simply choosing to serve MY tastes and MY personal beliefs... If this offends you, it is obviously YOUR problem... Sorry, but deal with it... And if it's really THAT much of a problem to you, I'd recommend you seek therapy... The message board (as far as I know) does not revolve around you... I may be new to the boards but I am in NO WAY new to Meshuggah! This is the first and last time I will address this... I come on these boards to make friends and take Meshuggah... Not get angry at someone for wearing the same band shirt I am... [end transmission]
StarChild
The Cynic
04-16-2003, 12:35 AM
By display the alien avatar, I am in no way trying to impress people by trying to be "the first kid on the block with a new bike"... I am simply choosing to serve MY tastes and MY personal beliefs... If this offends you, it is obviously YOUR problem... Sorry, but deal with it... And if it's really THAT much of a problem to you, I'd recommend you seek therapy... The message board (as far as I know) does not revolve around you... I may be new to the boards but I am in NO WAY new to Meshuggah! This is the first and last time I will address this... I come on these boards to make friends and take Meshuggah... Not get angry at someone for wearing the same band shirt I am... [end transmission]
StarChild
Um, ok. Considering the fact that a few other people here have used already used avatars and decided to, a) change it out of simple lack of desire for any conflict because they really don't give a shit, or, b) tell the person requesting a change to royally fuck himself in the ass, I find your response quite the quandary. If you really have personal reasons for wanting so bad the alien avatar, be my guest. I know I have no patent. However, I'm mighty interested in your reaction that I have a serious problem of should seek therapy. ETFA saw another guy with his OLD avatar and cursed the living shit out of him. That's not the only instance either. Whew! I thought I was being remotely considerate. And you presuppose that I think you are new to Meshuggah? Defensive much? I'm here for likely very similar reasons as you are. And, look at that, we've both got the same avatar to share our passions! How romantic. Look, be careful how serious you take what's said here (except SSM...he's a fucktard). Most people don't take this place too seriously (*hint: I'M included), so if I offended you, I didn't mean to and you're being sensitive. Yeah, you might be thinking that I'm a pain in the ass to deal with/get used to/ignore, etc, but, fortunately or no, we're not a bunch of over-sensitive high schoolers with anger issues. I should probably conclude this by sayin welcome to the forum, so I will. There are usually no hard feeling here. The only real hard feelings are all those fucking pervs is Gen. Discussion that get off chatting with Kristelle and the other assortment of characters claiming to be female that come trodding through here.
How about this: you get me an avatar of a penis going through someone's skull and this avatar's all yours. If I can find something comparable to that, you win...I'm a pussy when it comes to internet wars. :atthey:
Apache Boy
04-16-2003, 01:49 AM
Hot lemonade might work too
Colon Cancer
06-13-2003, 10:15 AM
I don't think it is possible to "growl" from the stomach... When you growl, it's your throat that is "warping" or "distorting" the sound that's SHOULD be coming from the stomach... When you SING, THAT should come from the stomach but when it reaches the throat and you want to get a growl, your throat kicks in and "adds" the distortion... So it really comes down to who has the strongest throat... Some people just naturally have the throat for it while others don't and have to work harder... Warming up DOES help a bit, though... But in honesty, warming just slows down the time between now and the day you blow out your vocals... So warming up just makes you last a bit longer... At least, this is my take on it after singer for about 3-4 years... :)
StarChild
I don't think he meant "growling from the stomach", he means using your diaphram to control the fluxuations of your voice. When you use your diaphram and not "screaming at the top of your lungs", you are able to sustain your voice and take better of your voice a lot better than other people. How many vocalist have blown out there voice cause they have screamed?
Oh yeah, hey Rei...it's me, Ogre.
FiveStringFiend
06-13-2003, 11:57 AM
Okay... This is for Barry Clark: Yep... I'm on the Candiria board... I believe I sent you a PM about it... See ya on the boards, dude!
This one is for The Cynic: The reason I chose to have the alien avatar is a long and extended one... It's late and I'm tired... I have to go to bed soon... The avatars were put on the boards for people to freely choose what they feel fits them... I chose what I chose for my own reasons as I'm sure you chose the same avatar for your own reasons... I am aware that the alien avatar I am displaying is not exactly "original"... Meshuggah did not invent aliens, I'm sure... And I've seen similar alien faces on many, many tee shirts as well as tattoos, body piercings, etc... By display the alien avatar, I am in no way trying to impress people by trying to be "the first kid on the block with a new bike"... I am simply choosing to serve MY tastes and MY personal beliefs... If this offends you, it is obviously YOUR problem... Sorry, but deal with it... And if it's really THAT much of a problem to you, I'd recommend you seek therapy... The message board (as far as I know) does not revolve around you... I may be new to the boards but I am in NO WAY new to Meshuggah! This is the first and last time I will address this... I come on these boards to make friends and take Meshuggah... Not get angry at someone for wearing the same band shirt I am... [end transmission]
StarChild
A simple "fuck you cynic, my avatar!" woulda done it :wink:
Colon Cancer
06-14-2003, 10:30 PM
Okay... This is for Barry Clark: Yep... I'm on the Candiria board... I believe I sent you a PM about it... See ya on the boards, dude!
This one is for The Cynic: The reason I chose to have the alien avatar is a long and extended one... It's late and I'm tired... I have to go to bed soon... The avatars were put on the boards for people to freely choose what they feel fits them... I chose what I chose for my own reasons as I'm sure you chose the same avatar for your own reasons... I am aware that the alien avatar I am displaying is not exactly "original"... Meshuggah did not invent aliens, I'm sure... And I've seen similar alien faces on many, many tee shirts as well as tattoos, body piercings, etc... By display the alien avatar, I am in no way trying to impress people by trying to be "the first kid on the block with a new bike"... I am simply choosing to serve MY tastes and MY personal beliefs... If this offends you, it is obviously YOUR problem... Sorry, but deal with it... And if it's really THAT much of a problem to you, I'd recommend you seek therapy... The message board (as far as I know) does not revolve around you... I may be new to the boards but I am in NO WAY new to Meshuggah! This is the first and last time I will address this... I come on these boards to make friends and take Meshuggah... Not get angry at someone for wearing the same band shirt I am... [end transmission]
StarChild
A simple "fuck you cynic, my avatar!" woulda done it :wink:
Yeah, but Starchild likes to write an epic poem on shit like this...I know him....trust me...he would have said that...but...yeah...
xCaptainx
06-17-2003, 09:35 PM
hahahah! that cracked me up (the 'a simple fuck you cynic, my avatar' thing)
Tulip O'Hare
06-19-2003, 08:10 AM
Beofre you scream, take a teaspoon of glycerine.
tastes like sweet shit, but it coats the throat. You won't feel shit.
x-constant
08-26-2003, 10:51 PM
One of the main problems from screaming that vocalists get is that they get these lumps of bacteria on their vocal chords. I cant remember the name of them, but basically they fuck your vocal chords up.
There's a spray you can get thats basically like an anti-bacteria spray that keeps that problem at bay. Im sure the pharmacy would know what it is.
That wasn't very informative at all was it? hehe
balkanboi
10-03-2003, 09:24 AM
ETFA saw another guy with his OLD avatar and cursed the living shit out of him. That's not the only instance either.
Hey, that was a joke and you know it!
Hehe, how did I find this, I don't know
Tulip O'Hare
01-17-2004, 01:02 PM
one word.
glycerine.
take a shot befor eyou start screaming and that's all you need to know.
balkanboi
01-18-2004, 07:45 PM
some more info about that method?
Thrakem
01-28-2004, 07:27 AM
The only way to get jive with your vox is to do it lots.
I sing continually when I get the chance.
Like if no-ones around I just use my voice, doesn't matter what (at work, shower, in my bedroom, all that).
If you keep using your voice you'll be suprized how much stronger it gets over time.
That said - when you ruin your vox do the opposite.
Try not to even speak until they're fine again - then start 'smaller' next time. :)
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