Favourite Drummers

[Blastbeats]

I belive that almost everyone in here would agree with me on the statement that drummers are the ones who rule...

Favourite drummers: (in no particular order)

Tomas Haake.
Brann Dailor (check out Mastodon - Remission).
Chris Pennie.
Tony Laureano (now a part of Nile).
David Sandström (ex member of Refused (R.I.P.)).
Morgan Åström (on Sol Niger Within. Excellent!!!).

This list can change from day to day, but it´s a pretty neat list.

:| :| :|

[Wangoed]

right now it is

tomas
pete sandoval
danny carey
john dolmyian (sp)

thats all...

[Tsorovan]

No order.

Bobby Jarzombek, Asgeir Mickelson, Morgan Ågren, Virgil Donati, Dennis Chambers, Vinnie Colaiuta, Alex Holzwarth, Anders Johansson, André Ferrari, Tomas Haake, Danny Carey, Chad Wackerman, Gary Husband, Tony Williams, Aynsley Dunbar, Chester Thompson, Terry Bozzio, Jeff Sipe, that Martyr drummer, Johan Langell, Jason Rullo, Danny Heifetz, Pat Mastelotto, Bill Bruford, Sean Reinert, Alex Acuña, Tim Alexander, Richard Christy, Gene Hoglan, Simon Phillips, Michael Shrieve, Jack DeJohnette, Lenny White, Steve Gadd, Billy Cobham, Phil Collins (Genesis, Brand X), Dave Weckl, Steve Smith, Trilok Gurtu, Peter Erskine, Thomas Lejon, Dave Lombardo (Fantômas), Kirk Covington, and I could go on and on and on...but my fingers already hurt.

[Sojo]

No order.

Bobby Jarzombek, Asgeir Mickelson, Morgan Ågren, Virgil Donati, Dennis Chambers, Vinnie Colaiuta, Alex Holzwarth, Anders Johansson, André Ferrari, Tomas Haake, Danny Carey, Chad Wackerman, Gary Husband, Tony Williams, Aynsley Dunbar, Chester Thompson, Terry Bozzio, Jeff Sipe, that Martyr drummer, Johan Langell, Jason Rullo, Danny Heifetz, Pat Mastelotto, Bill Bruford, Sean Reinert, Alex Acuña, Tim Alexander, Richard Christy, Gene Hoglan, Simon Phillips, Michael Shrieve, Jack DeJohnette, Lenny White, Steve Gadd, Billy Cobham, Phil Collins (Genesis, Brand X), Dave Weckl, Steve Smith, Trilok Gurtu, Peter Erskine, Thomas Lejon, Dave Lombardo (Fantômas), Kirk Covington, and I could go on and on and on...but my fingers already hurt.


I go with this list, but I'd add Buddy rich, Ian Paice and RINGO!! :)

[Eucharist]

Some personal favourites:

Tomas Haake, Gene Hoglan, Sean Reinert, Pete Sandoval, Vinnie Paul, Virgil Donati, Richard Christy....etc....

[drowningman]

here's my list:

dave lombardo,brann dailor(now in mastodon;check out his old band LETHARGY too),chris pennie,dave witte,paul bostaph,gene hoglan,sean reinert,morgan agren,peter wildoer,igor cavalera,chris nail(exhorder),away,chris kontos,pat mastelotto,the guy in atheist,........

[Eyeball]

Tomas Haake, Morgan Agrom, Gene Hoglan, Nick Barker, Sean Reinert, Trym, John Longstreth, Pete Hammoura, Roger Beaujard, Pete Sandoval, Jon Allen, Ed Warby, Chris Pennie, Kenneth Schalk, Marcell Dissantos

[drowningman]

forgot about danny carey and tom haake........

[Eyeball]

OK - left out Dennis Chambers, Neil Peart, Terry Bozzio, Danny Carey, Carter Beauford, Mike Bordin, Jon Fishman, Nick Mason, Danny Heifetz, and John "Bermuda" Schwartz

[timdog]

Tsoro,
You've forgotten Jerry Gaskill from King's X. :lol:

[Wangoed]

OH!

and derek roddy, he is the king of the moment

[Tsorovan]

timdog: oooooh, good call. I also forgot Lars Ulrich! How about that!

Some I actually DID forget (and whom I really have to add, otherwise they'll feel bad -- even though this only was a partial list) are:

Dave Miranda - The Magic Elf
Nana Vasconcelos
Billy Martin - Medeski Martin & Wood
Magnus Öström - Esbjörn Svensson Trio
Björn Nyberg - Local band Hybrid Freak Division
Bob Muller - The Trey Gunn Band

+ 50 more of course :\

[NYspeedDrummer]

You all forgot Mike Portnoy

Thats better! hehe

Mike

[Desciple]

no one mentioned Vinnie Paul yet I think. I think Mike portnoy isn't that good. He is tight, but IMO not very creative. but maybe that's just a matter of taste.

[meshman]

You All forgot the best fucking drummer ever FLO MOURNIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[meshman]

I could play drums better than Lars Gayrich, that guy is a joke!!

[sunman]

Tsoro,
You've forgotten Jerry Gaskill from King's X. :lol:

:(

he never gets the respect he deserves



:cry:

[sunman]

all i have to say is:
NEIL FUCKING PEART!!!!!!!

:D

[Tsorovan]

Hold now, hold now...why adding all these overrated mediocre ones? :D

(And meshman, if you didn't realise it until now, Lars Ulrich was a joke.)

[drowningman]

i forgot to mention the CANDIRIA-guy and TED KIRKPATRICK

[drowningman]

You All forgot the best fucking drummer ever FLO MOURNIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's the cryptopsy-guy, right? quite nice, but i don't like that trigger-sound.

[drowningman]

ah, shit, there are so many great drummers.....

james deWees(for playing the most complicated parts with so much power it almost hurts)
ted parsons(for having the ability to groove!)
joe villemaire(for playing totally crazed drum patterns)

[Linnes]

I think Anders Johansson has done some cool stuff.

[Tsorovan]

I'm sure you're thinking of HammerFall!!!!!

Hehe, no seriously, he's really really good that man. Too bad he has to do as his brother and whore around to be able to live on playing his instrument.

[Deansy]

No order:

Igor Cavalera
Dave Lombardo
Tomas Haake
Gene Hoglan
Derek Roddy
Morgan Agren

[meshuggah1324]

Tomas Haake>>>Tomas Haake<<<Tomas Haake>>> :twisted:

[Linnes]

I'm sure you're thinking of HammerFall!!!!!

Hehe, no seriously, he's really really good that man. Too bad he has to do as his brother and whore around to be able to live on playing his instrument.

Heh, I was mostly thinking of stuff from heptagon records. The albums with him and Jens are really good. Heavy machinery with Holdsworth kicks ass.

[CPierre]

First of all, this belongs in the drum section.

You All forgot the best fucking drummer ever FLO MOURNIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's the cryptopsy-guy, right? quite nice, but i don't like that trigger-sound.

Flo Mounier from Cryptopsy doesn't use triggers. He uses Talent. What's with all these hardcore kids who know nothing about music joining the forum? Very annoying indeed.

[Elmface]

I've read in an interview with Flo saying that he uses triggers in the studio and on the stage to make it easier, not when he practice though..

[sunman]

Hold now, hold now...why adding all these overrated mediocre ones? :D


:pissed:


:flipoff:

:P

[CPierre]

I've read in an interview with Flo saying that he uses triggers in the studio and on the stage to make it easier, not when he practice though..

Nope. Do you listen to Cryptopsy? I mean REALLY listen to them? Are you a fan? The Drums are not triggered. I've watched Flo Play live from the stage twice and he does not use triggers.

What he does use is a sampler, which he uses for the "Do you hear that? That is the sound of inevitability." Among others.

So Almgren, plese link me to that interview, I'd really like to see it.

[Elmface]

I've got all their albums, so I guess I'm a "fan".

I'll see if I can find that interview, it's been a while since I read it..

[salan]

Tomas Haake, Tony Laureano and Dave Lombardo.

[drowningman]

I've read in an interview with Flo saying that he uses triggers in the studio and on the stage to make it easier, not when he practice though..

Nope. Do you listen to Cryptopsy? I mean REALLY listen to them? Are you a fan? The Drums are not triggered. I've watched Flo Play live from the stage twice and he does not use triggers.

What he does use is a sampler, which he uses for the "Do you hear that? That is the sound of inevitability." Among others.

So Almgren, plese link me to that interview, I'd really like to see it.


don't care about if he triggers or not, but the drum sound isn't the best. you can call that "futuristic" or whatever, but it just sounds sterile. and actually most death metal drummers use triggers!!!!!

[MuD]

Tomas Haake
Mike Portnoy
Terry Bozzio

[The Cynic]

Flo does rip on drums. Cryptopsy's like the only band I can't headbang to...

[drowningman]

First of all, this belongs in the drum section.

You All forgot the best fucking drummer ever FLO MOURNIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's the cryptopsy-guy, right? quite nice, but i don't like that trigger-sound.

Flo Mounier from Cryptopsy doesn't use triggers. He uses Talent. What's with all these hardcore kids who know nothing about music joining the forum? Very annoying indeed.

how do you come to think that i'm a "hardcore kid"? i'm listening to metal for almost a decade now, death metal KID! and i guess i knoe more bout METAL than YOU. even a deaf could hear that the drums on AND THEN YOU'LL BEG are triggered. i'm very well able to differentiate between triggered and authentic drummming.
but let's stop this silly discussion: there are wayyyyy better drummers out there and i don't care about FLO MOUNIER anyway.

[trephine]

Tomas Haake, Morgan Agrom, Gene Hoglan, Nick Barker, Sean Reinert, Trym, John Longstreth, Pete Hammoura, Roger Beaujard, Pete Sandoval, Jon Allen, Ed Warby, Chris Pennie, Kenneth Schalk, Marcell Dissantos

Hey man, you hear the final bloodbath cd? It is about time we can hear Roger tearing it up on drums rather than that fucking drum machine. The new stuff sounds awesome as well. I would just like to add, Ken Owen. And everyones favorite, PAUL MAZURKIEWICKZ!!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding about the last one. Sucks to hear how Ken Owen is doing (any carcass fans by the way?). I think he suffered a stroke or a braind haemorhage, something like that.

[Blastbeats]

I cant belive i forgot to mention

Danny Carey
Matte Modin (Dark funeral)
and..

Billy Cobham

Billy is a great drummer and I love his music, I´m sorry Billy!!!

:( 8) :|

[HAGGUHSEM]

Tomas Haake [/url]

[Wangoed]

is the new bloodbath out already?!?

[trephine]

is the new bloodbath out already?!?

Not yet. I can't wait to hear that, I think they are suppossed to be doing a full length, about fucking time. Breeding death was a cool ep.

[trephine]

http://www.centurymedia.com/bands/Bloodbath.htm

http://www.bloobath.biz/

The second link is their official page but I guess it is not up yet or was taken down. I am not sure if the album is out or not, I don't think it is because there would have been an mp3 on the century media page for the new album, but that site is so damn slow with mp3's. I can't wait until the new one comes out, I almost forgot about it.

[Wromwoud]

Matt Cameron.
Incredible!

[meshman]

First of all, this belongs in the drum section.

You All forgot the best fucking drummer ever FLO MOURNIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's the cryptopsy-guy, right? quite nice, but i don't like that trigger-sound.

Flo Mounier from Cryptopsy doesn't use triggers. He uses Talent. What's with all these hardcore kids who know nothing about music joining the forum? Very annoying indeed.

how do you come to think that i'm a "hardcore kid"? i'm listening to metal for almost a decade now, death metal KID! and i guess i knoe more bout METAL than YOU. even a deaf could hear that the drums on AND THEN YOU'LL BEG are triggered. i'm very well able to differentiate between triggered and authentic drummming.
but let's stop this silly discussion: there are wayyyyy better drummers out there and i don't care about FLO MOUNIER anyway.
Actually Flo does use triggers, but so do most metal drummers and it's not any less "authentic", they are still hitting their drums. And as far as death metal goes, there is no better drummer. If you say there is better then enlighten me. I would love to hear someone who could actually surpass flo's mix of brutality and jazzy improvisation. Please tell me who is wayyyyy better! I challenge you! :roll:

[Vlad Drac]

Danny Carrey
Ken Schalk
Chris Pennie
Tim Alexander
Dave Lombardo
Terry Bozio

[mr marcus]

buddy rich and gene krupa
are good jazz session musicians.

[ACRIDPLACIDITY]

hey blastbeats...billy is coming to my town for the vancouver drum festival and i am volunteer so i will get to tech for him, watch him soundcheck and everything...i am so excited....also mike mangini(steve vai, annhilator, mullmuzzler and mike keneally)...should be great

[Pseudonym]

Ray Herrera

[Charlie]

Only one mention of Sean Reinert? :|

[Tsorovan]

I counted 4.

[dimensionidol]

i am a guitar player but i really enjoy drums too!

my favourite are:

NEIL PEART(my fav)
BILL BRUFORD(yeah!)

TRYM
GENE HOGLAN
BRAIN
DANNY CAREY
JOEY BARON(naked city and jazz session man!)
TONY WILLIAMS
THOMAS HAAKE
MORGAN AGREN(to me the best drummer now!)
CHRISTIAN VANDER(magma's drummer)
PETE SANDOVAL
TATSUYA YOSHIDA(check absolutely this guy from japanese underground
band RUINS he kicks major asses :shock: )


:)

[Barry Clark]

Only one mention of Sean Reinert? :|Yeah he is bad ass. I loved Death's "Human".

No need to mention Tomas Haake, I assume.

Dave Lombardo
Mick Harris
Paul Bostaph
Gene Hoglan
Ray Herrera
Danny Carey
Akira Jimbo (musically boring, but what ability!)
Igor Cavalera

[drowningman]

i am a guitar player but i really enjoy drums too!

my favourite are:

NEIL PEART(my fav)
BILL BRUFORD(yeah!)

TRYM
GENE HOGLAN
BRAIN
DANNY CAREY
JOEY BARON(naked city and jazz session man!)
TONY WILLIAMS
THOMAS HAAKE
MORGAN AGREN(to me the best drummer now!)
CHRISTIAN VANDER(magma's drummer)
PETE SANDOVAL
TATSUYA YOSHIDA(check absolutely this guy from japanese underground
band RUINS he kicks major asses :shock: )

hey! magma are a damn good band!

recently, GENE HOGLAN made fun of some scandinavian black metal bands.(DARK FUNERAL,EMPEROR and IMMORTAL) he stated that those black metal drummers all use PRO-TOOLS to speed up their drumming......



:)

[Tsorovan]

Charlie: Hey hey hey, didn't realize it was Mr. Ekendahl. Good luck with recording the new Aghora album, I'm very very much looking forward to it!

[dimensionidol]

recently, GENE HOGLAN made fun of some scandinavian black metal bands.(DARK FUNERAL,EMPEROR and IMMORTAL) he stated that those black metal drummers all use PRO-TOOLS to speed up their drumming......





i have seen emperor live and trym play real drum really fast!

and if pete sandoval can why not trym?

i think gene have a little fear to be not the faster!

:lol:

[Charlie]

Tsovoran, tackar :)
About Gene Hoglan...
I find it pretty funny that he would make such a statement. I have heard from some very reliable sources that he cleans up his drums with Pro Tools as well, or at least he did in some past albums.

[drowningman]

Tsovoran, tackar :)
About Gene Hoglan...
I find it pretty funny that he would make such a statement. I have heard from some very reliable sources that he cleans up his drums with Pro Tools as well, or at least he did in some past albums.

GENE said that he uses PRO-TOOLS sometimes but he doesn't speed up his drumming.he said that the new STRAPPING YOUNG LAD album is going to be REALLY fast. about trym: gene said that DEVIN(who is a big fan of EMPEROR and ZYKLON) asked TRYM how he manages to play this fast,and TRYM answered him that he uses PRO-TOOLS to make his drumming faster!

[dimensionidol]

about trym: gene said that DEVIN(who is a big fan of EMPEROR and ZYKLON) asked TRYM how he manages to play this fast,and TRYM answered him that he uses PRO-TOOLS to make his drumming faster!

and how he can fuckin' use pros live?

'cause in emperial live ceremony he play fast like in the albums!?

what is the correct function of pro tools?

:)

[Stengah]

i think the best drummer in the planet is Bobby Jarzombek followeed by this ones, in not particular order:

Alex Arellano [power of omens]
richard christy
reinert
haake
portnoy
colaiuta
derek roddy

and a lot of more...

[Dirty Pant'loon]

Uh.

Morgan Ågren
Tomas Haake (fönsterhake)
Terry Boozio
Mike Mangini

[And Then Youll Beg]

:x Very Few, next to nobody mentioned Flo!! (Cryptopsy) he is by far the king of extreme metal drumming. I thought just listening to Cryptopsy's cds was awsome, but then I saw Cryptopsy live, and my jaw dropped.

But my Favorite drummers are:
Flo - Cryptopsy
Tomas - Meshuggah

[The Cynic]

I saw Cryptopsy play twice. The first time I had never heard of them (I was 16), but the second time (when I finally knew the songs) was amazing. Flo is the only drummer that I can't follow. Meshuggah, DEP, etc., I can, but this guy's got me guessing. I don't dig the music all that much, but he is a great drummer.

[drowningman]

about trym: gene said that DEVIN(who is a big fan of EMPEROR and ZYKLON) asked TRYM how he manages to play this fast,and TRYM answered him that he uses PRO-TOOLS to make his drumming faster!

and how he can fuckin' use pros live?

'cause in emperial live ceremony he play fast like in the albums!?

what is the correct function of pro tools?

:)

don't know about the pro-tools,as i was just quoting gene, but trym himself admitted that his drumming is completely triggered.

[drowningman]

:x Very Few, next to nobody mentioned Flo!! (Cryptopsy) he is by far the king of extreme metal drumming. I thought just listening to Cryptopsy's cds was awsome, but then I saw Cryptopsy live, and my jaw dropped.

But my Favorite drummers are:
Flo - Cryptopsy
Tomas - Meshuggah

wouldn't say that he's the "king" of extreme metal drumming, other death metal drummers like tony laureano or the guy in origin are just as good as flo.

you should look a bit further before you call anybody a "king".
there are lots of great drummers out there,and the only extreme metal drummer I can't "follow" is BRANN DAILOR(now in MASTODON,former member of LETHARGY and TODAY IS THE DAY) his drumming on LIFESBLOOD is unbelievable. he plays as if he had four hands. there's this song called WE BUILT THIS COME DEATH were he plays at inhuman speed. too much to believe!
and there's this guy in PIG DESTROYER, who has developed a totally unique blasting technique. it sounds like tribal drumming played hundred times faster.

[drowningman]

when it comes to blastbeats, my fav is still dave witte of burnt by the sun/discordance axis. extremely fast and not the slightest hint of triggers.

[ichwilldeinblut]

Abe Cunningham

[meshman]

nope, Flo is the blast king
Fuck all those grind bands with their one footed blasts

[meshman]

And Then You'll Beg: have you heard Cephalic Carnage? Check out the new one, their drummer is up their with Flo.

[Dave2112]

And Then You'll Beg: have you heard Cephalic Carnage? Check out the new one, their drummer is up their with Flo.

Yeah, John from Cephalic is one of my favorites.. The music is a little to something for me but John Longstreth of Origin is pretty amazing too..

[xfernando84x]

Tomas Haake
Max Kolesne of Krisiun
John of Cephalic Carnage
Tony Royster Jr. (he's like 14 years old and the best I've ever seen)
Terry Bozzio

...and Dana Carvey (Garth)
:lol:

[Tsorovan]

Royster Jr. is more like 17 or 18 now.

[drowningman]

hmmm.......how 'bout RICK COLALUCA,STEVE FLYNN,CHRIS PENNIE and SEAN REINERT?
did i mention that DAVE LOMBARDO is working on a solo album?

[meshman]

Chris Pennie is the Dillinger guy, right? Yeah , he kicks ass! Dude from Krisiun is fast, but I have the same beef with him that I have with most deathmetal drummers--no variation, just constant blast, which is just mind-numbingly boring after a few minutes.

[Breene]

Peter Erskin and Alex Acuna have not yet been mentioned. Oh, and don't forget the Church Lady!

[sunman]

Tomas Haake

Tony Royster Jr. (he's like 14 years old and the best I've ever seen)


yeah for his age he is amazing

[trephine]

Chris Pennie is the Dillinger guy, right? Yeah , he kicks ass! Dude from Krisiun is fast, but I have the same beef with him that I have with most deathmetal drummers--no variation, just constant blast, which is just mind-numbingly boring after a few minutes.

I know what you mean, Krisiun kicks ass but there are like maybe 3-4 drum beats used and that about it, either a basic bass/snare beat, blast beat (but with fast double bass), and then as drum roll going like 500 bpm :lol: .

[trephine]

nope, Flo is the blast king
Fuck all those grind bands with their one footed blasts

A lot of bands now a days use two footed blast beats. One footed blast beats are more old school (like carcass, etc). I love both but the one foot blast beat seems more natural. Dude, you ever listen to rotten sound? Their drummer is awesome at blast beats, I think he does the double bass blast beats, he is pretty sick at blasts. http://www.rottensound.com/ Flo is pretty fucking fast too. When the hell is cryptopsy making a new album anyway?

[Elmface]

I think they're working on new songs right now. I read something about a live cd coming out soon, maybe early next year. Check www.cryptopsy.net, I'm sure there's some info about it on their site.

[hkrooh]

Those one-footed blasts are insanely difficult compared to the double bass version, at least for me. I mean if you play it like:


H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-
S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-
-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B


Although I am not good at either one. It feels kinda difficult because the BD hits are off-beat. Sorry, I know this is off-topic :P

[trephine]

Those one-footed blasts are insanely difficult compared to the double bass version, at least for me. I mean if you play it like:


H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-
S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-
-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B


Although I am not good at either one. It feels kinda difficult because the BD hits are off-beat. Sorry, I know this is off-topic :P

I find those more difficult to do as well, although I am getting better at them. With the double bass blast beats you just have to keep a slower beat since your using two feet as oppossed to one but with the single foot blast beat you have to play on that one foot much faster, so it can feel weird at times. To get used to it I keep the left foot off of my bass drum pedal so it is like I am playing double bass but only one bass drum is being played, the other just tapping the floor. Or you can practice the basic bass drum/snare beat
(H=high hat, S=snare, B=Bass drum)

---H----H--
---S----S--
-B----B----

at different tempos, since that's all a blast beat is, it's that beat but sped up. I am a guitarist not a drummer so I may sound like a dumbass in this field. I use the ride cymbal more for blast beats than the high hats though.

[trephine]

I think they're working on new songs right now. I read something about a live cd coming out soon, maybe early next year. Check www.cryptopsy.net, I'm sure there's some info about it on their site.

thanks, it's been a while since I have checked their site.

[meshman]

Are you guys seriously trying to say that single kick is harder than double kick? I could do a one-footed blast, and I'm not even a drummer.

[meshman]

Nevermind, I know what you're saying about the kick being on the upbeat---but most grind bands do a roll with their hands on the snare and the high-hat and the kik is on the downbeat and the result is pretty much the same. It sounds like you guys are making something simple really difficult when it doesn't have to be.

[trephine]

I am not much of a drummer so for me it is not the easiest, but I find it much easier to do the blast with double bass, but that's just me. I can pull it off with a single foot but for me the double bass is easier, that's all I meant, althought the single does sound more natural. The single blast beat just requires more stamina, that's why I find the double bass blast beats easier to do, because I am a lazy mofo. :D

[jvincion]

recently, GENE HOGLAN made fun of some scandinavian black metal bands.(DARK FUNERAL,EMPEROR and IMMORTAL) he stated that those black metal drummers all use PRO-TOOLS to speed up their drumming......


I saw Immortal live about six months ago, and Horgh is just as fast live as he is on the albums, so no. I think Gene may a little bit on the jealous side. :D

Oh, and favorite drummers (off the top of my head):
Tomas Haake - so awesome... everywhere
Morgen Ågren
Virgil Donati
Billy Cobham
Elvin Jones
Henry Ranta
Danny Carey - so awesome live
Pete "the feet" Sandoval
Horgh
Alfredo Hernández
Paul Bostaph
Ken Owen
John Stanier
Jan Axel Von Blomberg (aka Hellhammer)
Doug Bolm

[drowningman]

recently, GENE HOGLAN made fun of some scandinavian black metal bands.(DARK FUNERAL,EMPEROR and IMMORTAL) he stated that those black metal drummers all use PRO-TOOLS to speed up their drumming......

I saw Immortal live about six months ago, and Horgh is just as fast live as he is on the albums, so no. I think Gene may a little bit on the jealous
side. :D

Oh, and favorite drummers (off the top of my head):
Tomas Haake - so awesome... everywhere
Morgen Ågren
Virgil Donati
Billy Cobham

VIRGIL DONATI is awesome. i've heard his drum solo on the PLANET X live album........mind blowing.

[trephine]

Ken Owen

I am glad someone picked Ken Owen, he fucking rules. I was just watching the carcass dvd yesterday, that's one band that need to have a reunion, well if Ken was not in his situation and if Bill Steer actually liked grindcore again.

[Wangoed]

is that really hellhammer's name?

[Greed]

Spug
Tomas Haake
Daniel Svensson
Henry Ranta
DannyCarey

[jvincion]

Ken Owen

I am glad someone picked Ken Owen, he fucking rules. I was just watching the carcass dvd yesterday, that's one band that need to have a reunion, well if Ken was not in his situation and if Bill Steer actually liked grindcore again.

Well, Bill's got Firebird, and from what I hear, Ken is interested in getting back into music - although of an electronic variety for now. I don't know if you'd heard, but Ken got out of his coma early this year.

And to Wangoed - I'm not really sure if that's Hellhammer's real name, but he has used it on a few albums, and I have seen it online listed as his real name, so my sources point to yes.

[jvincion]

Whoa, that last post got sucked into a vortex! :shock: Page 7 of 6? That's bizarre. Maybe this post will knock this thread back into alignment.

In order to give this post a bit of relevance, I did some more research on Hellhammer by checking the All Music Guide and thumbing through my copy of Lords of Chaos, and it does indeed seem his name is at least Jan Axel Blomberg. The "Von" is included on a few albums (Arcturus' more recent efforts), and he's referenced as Jan Axel "Hellhammer" Blomberg in Lords of Chaos.

Then again, I suppose both of those aren't the best of resources, but as far as I know, Lords of Chaos is the most definitive book on the Black Metal scene of the 90's. Of course, their Norsk could be better... they thought "før" was "for" and not "before". :P

[cadeverous masticator]

My Favorite Drummers in my opinion.

Thomas Haake
Igor Cavalera
Dave Lombardo
Mick Harris
Neil Hutton (Benediction)
Vinnie Paul
Danny (From Tool Don't know how to spell his last name)

A Few Others that I can't think of right now.

[thewolf419]

i cant believe i read all 7 pages.

hmm. No Led Zep, they must suck.

and only 1 mention of Steve Flynn!

what about Chad Smith? does anyone think he's good? i do.

-paul

[drowningman]

i don't know much of ANACRUSIS' stuff, but i liked what i've heard so far.

[Rob_Wolfe]

Flo Monier and jazz improvisation in the same sentence :lol: Mike Mangini could do anything Flo does and he could do it twice as fast (I'm not kidding)and 4x more fucked up. His single hand rolls are absolutely horrifying. He also holds the worlds record for most beats played in 60 seconds with his hands (1,167 if I remember correctly, can someone verify?). Needless to say, if he ever joined a death metal band he would have everyone grabbing their dicks because death heads always piss themselves over how fast the drummers are.

my favorite drummers...

1. gary husband
2. morgan agren

I recognize Virgil and Mike Mangini's godliness but the things they do on a drum kit are light years beyond my understanding. Those guys are from another world. I am not even worthy of listing them as favorites.

[Tsorovan]

I've never heard a song on which Mangini plays that showcased any technique at all. To me, he seems like a standard player in the "bands" he's in, and then he'll go nuts in solos. Mindless solos too, if I might add. Non-musical solos. Check out Wackerman's solo on "Zone" on Holdsworth's newest live album, All Night Wrong if you want a musical solo.

In other news...I recently saw Bill Frisell Quartet. Amazing concert, plus...the drummer; Kenny something...awesome player. He boggled my mind. No tech flaunt...just incredible dynamics and outstanding feeling/control.

[Rob_Wolfe]

Yes definitely mindless. Just fast, crazy-all over the place and wacked rhythms. I understand what you mean. Planet X is not something I enjoy, but listening to Virgil solo by himself can hold my attention for a long time. Dynamics and such aren't important to me when there is so much going on rhythmically.

[Wisdom9]

Tsorovan,

The name of the drummer you saw with Frisell is Kenny Wollesen (resident of NYC, by way of Northern California), one of the mainstays of the so-called "downtown" scene in New York for the past 12 years or so. In addition to Frisell's band, he does quite a bit of work with John Zorn, among many others.

Another drummer from the NYC scene that you would probably like is Jim Black. He has two albums under his own name--you should check him out if you haven't heard him already.

There are a number of drummers here in the States that are going to be very influential worldwide in the future, but they are just starting to become well-known at this point.

The drummers I'm thinking of are: Dave King (Minneapolis, Minnesota), Elliot Kavee (NYC), and Dan Weiss (New Jersey).

These guys are all ridiculous, technically and polyrhythmically--they are basically similar to Morgen Agren, in that they are not well known, but anybody who has heard them is left in a state of shock and amazement. I have no problems stating that they are as advanced as any drummer that has been mentioned on this list, each in his own individual way.

Anybody who is interested in high-level creative drumming should make an effort to hear these guys--all of them have recorded in a variety of contexts, and they tour frequently in Europe and the States.

[Dave2112]

Yeah, he won the title "Worlds Fastest Hands".. He even got a belt that looked like something out of Pro wrestling. He is a incredible drummer, he can sit down with anybody and play, and when its time to solo, he blast out.

The fella Tsoro mentioned, Chad Wackerman.. He is inspiring to say the least. His Holdsworth stuff is amazing, totally, and his more recent stuff (Rick Ruby, solo) is incredible. He's not just a super fast player, but he's right next to say "Vinnie C., Weckl, Chambers ect" when it comes to drumming that is inspiring, intuitively musical, creative and innovative. He's no clone, that's for sure.

Wisdom, I've heard of Jim Black and Dan Weiss.. I got some sounds off AIM a few months ago of Jim. B and was quite impressed, or rather really enjoyed. I read a write-up on Dan on the Modern Drummer site not to long ago, haven't heard him play though. If you know of any websites, please post!

[drowningman]

KIRK COVINGTON is also a great drummer, he plays in TRIBAL TECH(great jazz/fusion;check out ROCKET SCIENCE!)

[Wisdom9]

Here are some URL's re: the drummers I mentioned above:

Dave King- www.daveking.org

Dave is involved in many different projects, ranging from rock to more improvisational-type "jazz" groups. All of them are on an extremely high level--I would suggest starting out with the groups Happy Apple (improvisational, but with rock elements), 12rods (rock), and Love-Cars (rock).

Elliot Kavee- www.elliothumbertokavee.com

I would recommend checking Elliot out in the group Fieldwork, and in saxophonist Rudresh Mahanthappa's group. He's a scary dude on those drums.

I don't think Dan Weiss has a website at this point, but you should just try to pick up any recent album with him on it--he's playing great these days.

[Sonny]

[quote="thewolf419"]i cant believe i read all 7 pages.

hmm. No Led Zep, they must suck.


Yeah me too re: reading all 7 pages. One mention of Hellhammer!!! Why? :?

John Bonham from Led Zeppelin was class but I guess you put him up against Haake and well....

One drummer who I fucking loved a few years ago was um... either Peter or TT from Abigor. The drums on Opus IV and Nacthymen were outstanding

[meshman]

the guy from cephalic carnage makes me shit my pants and through it at people' faces. No serioulsy, he MAKES me do it, or he will shoot me. ....help

[Rockyxa]

I have actually never seen/heard a better drumsolo than the one
Tony Royster Jr pulled off in that video from some convent.

[Dave2112]

the guy from cephalic carnage makes me shit my pants and through it at people' faces. No serioulsy, he MAKES me do it, or he will shoot me. ....help

You're not alone there, John is one of my favorite Death/grind drummers as well. Hes a super nice guy too. :)

[Metalmedic]

God, that music on the Tony Royster Jr. site is disghusting....

[Metalmedic]

In a bad bad way... :eeek:

[Metalmedic]

There's this english band called sikth...their drummer is pretty damn amazing in terms of how he complements the crazy guitar riffage and how he is constantly changing the grooves and keeping it very interesting... www.sikth.com
check out the video for "how may i help you?" , it's really amazing!

[Tsorovan]

Wisdom9: thanks A LOT for that info; I will definitely check all those guys out. I've heard of Dave King but nothing more.

[Gopod^Meshuggah]

did anyone spell Morgan Agrens name right? lol

[PolyRythmShallReign]

fucks the point of long replies, no ones gonna read that shit, what the fuck :spicymeatball:

[bulb]

There's this english band called sikth...their drummer is pretty damn amazing in terms of how he complements the crazy guitar riffage and how he is constantly changing the grooves and keeping it very interesting... www.sikth.com
check out the video for "how may i help you?" , it's really amazing!

both that band and their drummer are amazing, wish i could find talent like that around here!

[cl8on]

Wisdom9: thanks A LOT for that info; I will definitely check all those guys out. I've heard of Dave King but nothing more. :lol: i have never seen Tsorovan appreciate someone elses' opinion before :lol:

[Wisdom9]

Wisdom9: thanks A LOT for that info; I will definitely check all those guys out. I've heard of Dave King but nothing more. :lol: i have never seen Tsorovan appreciate someone elses' opinion before :lol:

Well, I just put him onto some players that he wasn't familar with.

Dave King has gone on to become much better known internationally since I wrote that post (three years ago...time flies), due to the wild success of The Bad Plus.

Some younger drummers who have come along more recently that I recommend highly: Tyshawn Sorey, Joe Tomino, Ron Bruner Jr., and Antonio Sanchez (he's also becoming well known, as a result of his work with the Pat Metheny Group). If any of these guys are playing in your town, you should definitely go and check them out.

[cl8on]

how interesting :)

[balkanboi]

Antonio Sanchez is a monster drummer indeed

[ledtooltheater]

i was thinking about signing up for Drum Off 2005. then i looked at the other drummers' influences. most common? joey jordison. figures. i like to ask the audience before i play shows "who thinks speed is a good substitute for talent? let me rephrase that, how many joey jordison fans we got out there tonight?" lots of hands go up. yes i'm sure joey is god....but of what? as we've seen from the noise or rather the music industry, anyone can be fast. sure tim watterson is fast, but when all you do it blast beats and speed rolls you will get good at it. i haven't heard a lot of dimmu borgir, but i haven't heard any song from them with anything but blast beats.

i'd like to say my favorite drummer is grant collins. this guy does things with a double pedal joey jo jo can't dream of doing. so speed is out. my question is what can jordison do that collins can't? i also like vinnie c. good man.

[DISGUSTAPATED]

Quite sad how you concern yourself with joey jordison so much.

[neongenesis816]

Joey is buttface man.

[Sojo]

Meg White!!

[unleaded]

that flamer from every techo song ive ever heard
everyone else is horrible.

[Logical death]

Favourites:

Tomas (not in any order, all of them are amazing)
Pete Sandoval
Derek Roddy (http://www.derekroddy.com/, check the videos)
Morgan årgen (spelling?)
George kolias
Chris Pennie
Flo Mounier

[mchncl]

Meg White!!
yeah, i'd love to go to a clinic and watch them titties!!1 attach 2 bells and she'd be like the independence mastah, maaan!

[DrummahMeshuggah]

Drowning man.. your right The Guy from candiria and Thomas haake are by far the best metal drummers today.

Dennis chambers and Morgen Agreen are also rockin

[SkiZ]

the ones i like for their style more than their technical abilities:

john dolmayan - the guy from mudvayne i don't know what his name is now - vinnie paul - tomas haake - mike portnoy

and for their skills:

virgil donati - tomas haake - mike portnoy - terry bozzio - the guy in pain of salvation - dennis chambers

[NinjaHavoc]

morgen agren is like the tightest drummer evar

[cl8on]

morgen agren has like the tightest arsehole evar

:rock:

[33]

I dunno if he was mentioned but John Bonham was a God.

[Terminal Breath]

TOMAS HAAKEM...because he can kick your dad's ass!!!

[cl8on]

:lol: