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Steve Callanan
04-19-2003, 07:36 AM
Does conventional singing knowledge help with the application of a more metal oriented style?

I was thinking about getting a vocal coach and by improving my ability to hold pitch and note I'd be able to scream better.

Do yall think this would work...?

I can scream alright, and I have the guttral growl down to an art, but when I go nuts and let loose witha raor, it wavers, and the pitch jumps up and down. Would being able to sing in pitch properly get a more streamlined scream, you think?

Steve

MESHICANO LOCO
04-22-2003, 06:17 PM
Does conventional singing knowledge help with the application of a more metal oriented style?

I was thinking about getting a vocal coach and by improving my ability to hold pitch and note I'd be able to scream better.

Do yall think this would work...?

I can scream alright, and I have the guttral growl down to an art, but when I go nuts and let loose witha raor, it wavers, and the pitch jumps up and down. Would being able to sing in pitch properly get a more streamlined scream, you think?

Steve

THE ANSWER FOR A KILLER SCREAM IS CALLED "TEQUILA"

Wangoed
04-23-2003, 09:10 AM
haha, i am inclined to agree with mi amigo mexicano

but yes, conventional singing does indeed help with metal-screams and the like, if only because warming up with real singing enables one to scream more/longer/louder. don't warm up by tearing up your throat. just don't do anything phil anselmo would do :lol:

Steve Callanan
04-25-2003, 06:58 AM
So im gonna have to revise my 'smoke half an ounce of pot, drink a bottle of jack then a carton of beer' warm up routine.

Damn you phil.

Steve

xCaptainx
04-27-2003, 05:41 AM
yeah it can help. I do backing vocals for a band (singing) and screams in some songs, and can do Hardcore/metal vocals as well. And I do two different screams. I find singing as high as you can for a while to the limit of your range helps with your screams, cause usually you start breaking up after you get out of your reach, and it dissolves into a great sounding scream which you can do for ages.

mister_playboy
04-27-2003, 05:49 AM
The musical techniques that singing teaches about breathing and projecting are extremely helpful... I talked to two chicks I knew in high school choir back then to pick up ideas. It helped a ton. And besides... being able to sing coherently is fun in and of itself.

Mark
05-16-2003, 01:40 PM
The musical techniques that singing teaches about breathing and projecting are extremely helpful... I talked to two chicks I knew in high school choir back then to pick up ideas. It helped a ton. And besides... being able to sing coherently is fun in and of itself.

I have been the singer in a couple of bands all throughout my high school career, and I did also sing in the choir (awaits condescendence). The thing is, breathing and projection mean a lot yes. Tone quality, pitch, dynamic and diction are also very important tools for vocalists to utilize. An instructor I once studied under wrote her college thesis on male vocalists who warm up in their falsetto. She found that when men would engage in about 10 minutes of warm up, in complete falsetto (the 'girly' voice), their voice would never crack and they would have a much stronger presentation. After working with her for about 2 years I no longer have those issues, but then again, I haven't been in a band for about 2 years now. Well I don't know, I hope I can help you out a little

MrMark :retard:

fisk
05-30-2003, 01:33 AM
I think it's quite interesting how "screaming music" is percieved generally, because -really- it's a form of art. Anyone can scream, but it takes a lot more to be able to do it for more than thirty seconds, in addition, to do it with a beat, and doing it in different pitches depending on the mood in the music. I've tried screaming, and I can probably do it for a whole song; but after that I'm just beat. A friend of mine told me it's because I use the throat, and apparently that's a limitation. Learning to do this perfectly is basically out of my range of understanding, because no matter how hard I try, I keep using my throat; and get a throatache + can't utter much more than "Hssss" for a day or so afterwards.

I'll ask my friend again today, you know; the singer of Kamtjatka?, Never mind...

Colon Cancer
06-13-2003, 10:04 AM
I think it's quite interesting how "screaming music" is percieved generally, because -really- it's a form of art. Anyone can scream, but it takes a lot more to be able to do it for more than thirty seconds, in addition, to do it with a beat, and doing it in different pitches depending on the mood in the music. I've tried screaming, and I can probably do it for a whole song; but after that I'm just beat. A friend of mine told me it's because I use the throat, and apparently that's a limitation. Learning to do this perfectly is basically out of my range of understanding, because no matter how hard I try, I keep using my throat; and get a throatache + can't utter much more than "Hssss" for a day or so afterwards.

I'll ask my friend again today, you know; the singer of Kamtjatka?, Never mind...

I totally agree. When screaming was first "introduced" in the music world, people thought it was awful. They just thought it was no-talent hacks belting out incoherent beladorment (sp?). Charles Mingus, a jazz musician, was one of the first to start this, during the whole black protest thingy, lol...anyways, they diodn't like what he was doing, but he was just ahead of his time...

balkanboi
01-11-2004, 06:30 PM
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