Body do I get pissed when. . .

[MZBKA]

Some idiot says that Meshuggah has stuff in something other than 4/4. I know they do some stuff out of 4/4, but when somebody says The Mouth Licking What You've Bled is in 13/8 or some crap like that. . .body I just want to shoot them

[Reekay Ensemble]

what is this body crap :? ?

anyway what difference does it make really?.

does it somehow alter how YOU hear meshuggah ?

[meshman]

Body, do I get pissed when people think their so fucking special

[Wangoed]

:? what is going on here

who cares if people think meshuggah plays in 13/8 or 23/16 or anything like that, at least they're listening. when they mention something that's wrong you can correct them and be all "w3rd" about it. you dig?

[CEV]

body oh body I love that 23/16 part in NMCC

[Wangoed]

you mean the intro riff :D

[mr:bad]

hehe :)


they play like 4/4 5/4 7/4 and stuff i think they paly som 8/4-5 something but i'ts like the 4 nots.... hm

[mr marcus]

its sub divisions.

mes - hugg - ah
123 - 1234 - 12 = 9

1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
1 2 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 1 2

[Barry Clark]

"My body all over your body,babe" some R&B song I heard recently. :D

[StarChild]

Actually Meshuggah play in 97/19 timing... lol!!! J/k!

StarChild

[mr marcus]

:| .... um, :| , shut up.... :wink:

[Dimebag_Jay]

i dont even understand what ur talking about.

[Dimebag_Jay]

But to my understanding, a polyrhythm is 2 rhythms played at the same time.
which for example, works in new millenium cyanide christ..

5 subdivided bars of 23/16 + 1 of 13/16 = 128.. 128 / 16 = 8 (8 bars of 4/4 or 16/16)
This is why Meshuggah is sometimes called "Math Metal", although im quite sure they dont sit there and revise high school text books

[hkrooh]

That used to be my understanding too, but someone here corrected me. So it's polyMETRICS instead. Polyrhythms are whatever, I don't remember.

[vindaloodoo and e-tard]

A polyrhythm is a combination of rhythms with different temporal status. They're not magical, you don't have to fear them.
Here's a extremely brief outline of African (homogenized!) polyrhythmic drumming.

Here's a twelve count bar. If you know any music theory, these are quarter notes. If not, just count twelve beats in a bar.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

You can try this with a group of friends. Bold means clap. It's important that all players accent on the one. This is how drum troupes (African, Cuban, Chinese etc.) keep it together, regardless of how off-beat the phrases may seem.


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 (12)

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 (6)

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 (3)

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 (4)


Divide your phrase. For example, instead of playing plain triplets,

1 2 3 1 2 3

divide them up like this: quarter note, eighth note rest, eighth note, eighth note, eighth note rest, or


(one and) two (and) (three) and


This may seem pretentious and Mr. Marcus has said it before, but the lack of knowledge and fuzzy explanations in this forum are a bit disheartening.

[Dimebag_Jay]

I once got my mum to do that... when she uttered the comment "its only noise"..

(* means clap)

*1 2 3 4 *5 1 2 3 *4 5 1 2 *3 4 5 1 *2 3 4 5 (clap a 4/4 while counting a 5/4) but thats poly metrics as ive just been notified.. isnt it??


if ive gathered correctly so far.. a polymetric is NMCC, and a polyrhyhtm is Qualms of Reality?? (i may be wrong.. but thats the one with the acoustic intro isnt it?).... or is it the other way around?

[hkrooh]

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......................... ....... I don't get it.... but I've been drinking so dunno

[zan]

again?

polyrhytmics and drinking DON'T mix. :( :)

[IRmeshuggah]

Im not trying to offend anyone but stop fighting about the fucking times, The music still sounds the same if you know the times or not...just listen to the damn music and enjoy it, and meshuggah is easy to enjoy. :twisted: :)

[vindaloodoo and e-tard]

you take it apart to learn more.

[hkrooh]

Im not trying to offend anyone but stop fighting about the fucking times, The music still sounds the same if you know the times or not...just listen to the damn music and enjoy it, and meshuggah is easy to enjoy. :twisted: :)

Well, if you want to play it yourself it helps to know all this stuff.

[Dino_Velvet]

Im not trying to offend anyone but stop fighting about the fucking times, The music still sounds the same if you know the times or not...just listen to the damn music and enjoy it, and meshuggah is easy to enjoy. :twisted: :)

Well, if you want to play it yourself it helps to know all this stuff.
Besides, this is the "Polymetrics & Polyrhythms" section. This is exactly the kind of thing you are supposed to talk about in here 8).

[hkrooh]

yuuuup

[Nick]

mmm...body

-Nick

[IRmeshuggah]

i know but just talk dont argue bout what it is AH FUCK IT :D